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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: education: how to become a laffing stock Reply with quote

the times higher education supplement(thes) has ranked nus and ntu at 22 and 48 positions. this places nus ahead of many reputable universities in the usa. and if we work on it, it is so easy for nus to be the top university in the world.

singaporeans really excelled in the area of examination. we are exam smart. just let a singaporean go through the exam for a few times and we know exactly how to score in every area. the criteria set by thes is no different. we will learn quickly and overcome them, and score As in every section. another few years and we will be there, the top university in the whole world.

but being at the top comes with a price. financially this is chicken feed. we have the dole. we can afford it. if not enough we can raise fund. if necessary we can raise tuition fees. as simple as that. but the financial cost is nothing.

today nus is 22. even at 22, many people are already sneering at nus. how could nus be better than such and such a university in the states. these universities are well established and with records of producing brilliant and successful graduates. what is the track record of nus?

just imagine when we become number 1. we out ranked all the top ivy league universities in the usa. we are on top of harvard, mit, carnegie mellon, princeton, stanford, yale, ucla...etc etc we may become number 1 on paper. but nobody is going to take us seriously. we may work very hard to be tops in the thes ranking. but we will only work ourself to become a laughing stock.

a really good university is not just because of its ranking by some superficial survey. there are more to it than having how many foreign students, how many papers published, how good are the facilities and how many reputable professors. it is a history of many things in combination. and most important thing is the x factor. people just know and recognise it as the best.

do we want to work so hard to be number 1?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the best news today

nus and ntu are both raising their fees, again, the second time in two years after acquiring autonomous status. this augurs well for the education scene in singapore. the two universities will soon be among the top few universities in the world. they needed the money to raise the standard and quality of their courses and degrees. well, at least if they don't get it to the top in quality they will be in the tops in fees, in no time. maybe they are already there if we measure the fees relative to the income of the population.

and if these hikes did not improve the quality, they should make a more hefty hike next year and the year after. sure the quality will improve.

if i were in the opposition parties i will place education on top of my agenda. and tell the voters, if elected, fire all those who are the reasons for the fee hike.

this silly thing about money equals quality must be put to a stop. we have a lot of quality shit everywhere.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matilah_Singapura said...
The notion that "money equal quality" only works if there is a proper "feedback loop" as one would find in a free market.

It doesn't apply in a monopoly situation.

February 15, 2006 1:15 PM


redbean said...
just on the school or university situation, it needs 4 basic ingredients to produce excellent students. excellent professors, excellent facilities, excellent culture, and excellent students.

money can only buy two of the 4 ingredients, which means 50% contribution at most. many excellent universities do not need so much money to produce excellent students.

February 15, 2006 1:37 PM


abao said...
polytechnics just raised the school fees, now universities are doing so too...very soon, Singapore's standard of living will reach a "World Class" rate.

seeing how many people loaning money from CPF or Bank to finance their studies(and the continuing trend), it will become a vicious cycle that drains away your money...

February 15, 2006 5:41 PM


redbean said...
these poor university graduates, spending so much money on school fees. on graduation before getting a job, either they are all in debt or their parents are in debt.

and what kind of starting salary are they going to get? so for the first one or two years they will be working just to pay off their debt.

hey this is familiar stuff man. many of the foreign workers and maids are in the same shit. all in debt before they start work to repay the debt they owed to the recruiting agents.

why are these things happening to our own people?

February 15, 2006 6:09 PM


Anonymous said...
With the cost of living in Singapore keeps going up North and the salary keeping going down South or at miserable increment rate, how can Singaporeans not vote for the Opposition parties in the upcoming GE?

February 15, 2006 6:43 PM


Matilah_Singapura said...
>> how can Singaporeans not vote for the Opposition parties in the upcoming GE? <<

Quite easily.

Don't

Vote

For

Anyone

February 16, 2006 12:53 AM


Speedwing said...
You have something against voting Matilah? We must all exercise our rights to choose who we want to represent us. You made your choice, you chose to live in Australia. Why not have the courtesy to allow the Singaporeans to make their choice?

February 16, 2006 2:54 AM


redbean said...
i definitely will vote. and i will vote for those that are for the good of the people and my interest. why would i vote for people who make decisions that hurts me more than for me?

February 16, 2006 9:00 AM


Matilah_Singapura said...
Hey man, being courteous is not my forte - I'll leave that to people who have to kiss ass to earn a living, and it is not for me to stop any one doing what the fuck they want with their oh-so-precious life. Vote or don't vote or stick the ballot up your arse... it makes no difference to me - in ANY area of my life. Do as you will!

... but I can have an opinion... Right?

Wink

February 16, 2006 9:03 PM


redbean said...
i am not twisting your arms not to have an opinion. it is the difference in opinions that provides ingredients to a conversation.

February 17, 2006 9:03 AM
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

academics hired on merits and not nationality

for the past 5 years, 23% of newly recruited academics to our tertiary institutions were singaporeans. or put it the other way, 77% are foreign talents. at the rate it is going, we will need to rename the tertiary institutions as singapore world universities. singapore for the location of the universities. and world to tell people all the academics were recruited from around the world.

now, a world class university is coming up right on our soil. now i know why the fees must keep going up. world class academics are really good and really expensive. now the question is whether our student quality is up to par to be taught and converted into world class graduates. then, whether the world will recognise our students as world class, on top of the world, after graduating from our world class universities.

if our students are not of world class material, never mind. instant solution. offer their places to top students from china and india and neigbouring countries. by taking these measures, sure we will get world class academics and world class students to be turned into world class graduates.

singaporeans who are not up to world class mark can go to polytechnics, or get a father's scholarship and go overseas to attend not so world class universities.

we are the best. we are number one. we can buy quality, just like we bought honesty.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matilah_Singapura said...
What you are witnessing is a society in its death throes.

Spectacular!

February 15, 2006 6:23 PM


redbean said...
i agree. we are so money crazy that money is the solution of all things. and on the pretext of all these, everyone is grabbing as much as they can. just like hongkong pre 1997.

are people expecting singapore to face something as drastic as hongkong that they better line up their pockets quickly to prepare for that day? the death throes has started.

February 16, 2006 8:51 AM
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

angmohs are really smart.

if i were an angmoh organisation, and if i want to spread my soft culture to influence the world, and at the same time provide high salary employment for my academics, this is what i will do.

set up an agency to rank universities around the world according to my criteria. the same way the miss world or miss universe contests were organised and conducted. the same angmoh biased criteria.

some of these criteria that will be important are:

1. the number of notable angmoh academics teaching in the universities.

2. how to judge them as notables? a lot of publications in renowned publications and professional journals. and for these, the angmohs have a comparative advantage as all or most of the renowned journals are angmoh journals.

3. and who to do the judging, the angmohs of course.

so all the wannabe third world universities will be scrambling to meet these criteria to be ranked among the greats in this angmoh ranking organisations. they will end up employing all the great angmoh academics and pay them great angmoh salaries.

and these great angmoh academics will be so highly regarded that it will be so easy for them to go out there to influence the minds and thinking of the future leaders of the third world countries. did i hear neo colonialism of the minds? and for those third world academics who ended up losing their jobs in their own national universities, just too bad. they are not good enough. don't fit the criteria of what is great.

any angmoh reading this, please pat yourself on your back for such a brilliant concept. i mean it. the third world wannabes will be crawling on their knees to beg the great angmoh academics to grace their shores.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matilah_Singapura said...
You've missed the point.

It isn't as if ang mohs are bad (anyone can do what they like - it is their life)..

...it is the bloody kow tow Asians who kiss the ang moh's arses, thereby making the ang moh more "in demand".

By my own observations, ang mohs are "worshipped" for their "individualism".

Too fuckin bad for the Asians huh? Wink

February 15, 2006 6:26 PM


Speedwing said...
I must admit I am in agreement with Matilah on this issue. The Asians have this mindset that anyone with fair skin and hair and blue eyes must be more superior to the Asians. How wrong can they be!!! I have lived in UK for the last 40 years and my conclusion is that the reverse is more to the point. I feel that we are more superior than the ang mohs in many ways. Ofcourse there are certain areas where they are better than us.

February 15, 2006 8:35 PM


Matilah_Singapura said...
>> I feel that we are more superior than the ang mohs in many ways. Ofcourse there are certain areas where they are better than us. <<

See that's exactly what I mean. speedwing, you are a typical example, of thinking in terms of racial supriority. Thanks for sharing Smile

Embrace your inner racist Smile)

February 16, 2006 12:56 AM


redbean said...
my view is that for the last few centuries the angmohs have made great strides ahead in all areas and fields. the rest of the world has been left behind for all these years.

when i said angmohs are great, i meant it. the rest of the world is just trying to catch up. but still lagging very far behind. and the angmohs have many thinktank organisations planning big moves that by the time we realised what had happened, we have been left behind again.

but the other point is our own stupidity to fall into their schemes of things. we debased ourselves and look down upon ourselves. we rather kneel down in front of angmohs and beg to be screwed.

we are good in certain things. but for the moment, the angmohs are good in most things. that is the truth. look at all the inventions and latest technologies and gadgets? practically all are created by angmohs. we can only copy and try to improve on some. look around your house or around the office or in the open, practically everything useful are angmoh creation.

we must accept that. but no need to kneel and beg. we need to stand up and try to better ourselves. we cannot deny the great contributions of the angmohs towards civilisation during the last few centuries.

February 16, 2006 8:49 AM


Anonymous said...
fong shui lun liu chuan. around half of what was once the so called empire with no setting sun no longer even have the moon just three decades ago. Now even the bald eagle is finding difficulty to rule the roost.

its the coming of the asians.

February 16, 2006 10:16 AM


redbean said...
hi anonymous,

it is true that fortunes rise and fall and fade away. for the moment it seems that the wind has changed to favour the asians. but it is stil too early to make the claim until the rice is cooked.

the west can play foul and overturn the applecart when they know that it is to their disadvantage if the trend continues. they still carry the bigger gun.

February 16, 2006 10:26 AM


Anonymous said...
yes, but the rice will be cooked alright when there's boiling. Every great past civilization hv risen and fell. Nothing can stop nature.

while minnows may create no impact, the rising of the chinese economy, followed by the indian's, will diminish many of the luxurious lifestyle enjoyed by the west as their wealth starts getting sucked away .

As it is, unfair tactics are already being dished out to curb the impact where it starts to hurt. Guns cant do much as dissension and decadence growing from within will cause the erosion.

February 16, 2006 3:35 PM


Matilah_Singapura said...
Yes, redbean. The Western Civilization's success had solid foundations starting with the Greeks.

http://mises.org/story/2054

February 16, 2006 4:22 PM


redbean said...
the forces of nature and history is too power for man to change its course. i think the americans have been building a time bomb for themselves for too long. the great dependency on the greenbacks to control the world economy has laden them with so huge a debt that once it is unwind, the whole american economy will crumble like a deck of cards. too debt ridden.

i read a report that the real reason to invade iraq was saddam's insistence to trade oil using euro instead of greenbacks. the american has been controlling and manipulating the oil market by enforcing it to be traded in greenbacks only. the greenbacks have actually shifted its backing from gold to oil.

now the stage is set to invade iran as iran is taking the same road as saddam. it is setting up an oil market trading in euros commencing in march 06.

the switch to euros will see all the countries dumping their greenbacks for euros and can lead to a massive liquidation of greenbacks in their reserves.

the value of the greenbacks is going to take a severe shelling.

this will be the first decline of the western domination of world affairs.

February 16, 2006 4:58 PM


Matilah_Singapura said...
Western civilization started to decline when Marx and Engels invented socialism, and it was accepted as "progressive", and following that the total acceptance by the states of Keynesian economics. Precursors to this was white supremacy of imperialism - "manifest destiny" as US policy.

To this day, Western civilization continues to spiral down the scum-chute of iniquity, led by the US of A... And the Asians are still worshipping these fading giants. Bloody fools.

HURRAY for the players in an entertainment extravaganza!

February 16, 2006 8:59 PM


redbean said...
my view is that after the victory in ww2 they continue to grow and the american empire expanded without it being acknowledged in those terms.

vietnam was their first military defeat. but economically they were still surging ahead. i would say the decline is just starting after they called themselves an empire, just about when things are turning. and this empire concept will lead to a faster downfall as they could not appreciate the power of islam.

they fought communism after ww2. today they are fighting islam all over the world. and islam is a much stronger and ferocious enemy, with allah on its side.

February 17, 2006 8:54 AM


Matilah_Singapura said...
One thing about the Yanks, is that they have an immutable style.

Got to hand it to them - they use the zeitgiest of their globally pervasive entertainment industry in their military and police actions.

Got style lah. Shock and Awe. Lots of explosions, fire fights - a spectacular display of deadly hardware against a severely under-capitalise foe.

Damn good show. Better than Spielberg, Bruckheimer et al.

Give the fuckers an Oscar! Smile)

February 17, 2006 5:52 PM


redbean said...
after vietnam i thought they would get a little smarter and choose their enemies carefully. choosing saddam wasn't a bad choice. limited retaliatory ability. but they forgot about the arab world and islam.

now they are continuing to dig in deeper into iran.

the control of the world, even through the control of oil and greenbacks will still mean that the americans will have to pay.

no free lunch.

February 19, 2006 8:17 PM
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

university fees: smu joins the fray

smu does not want to lose out in the race to be the most expensive university in singapore, which means the best education money can buy. the more you pay the better will be the university.

smu has raised its fee the second time, each time by 15%. so on the same logic, the quality of its education is up by 30%.

nus and ntu have raised by 8%. so in terms of percentage its quality is up by only 8%. so smu is now a better university. so we shall wait to see who will up the stake in the next increment. nus and ntu now have better reasons to up their fees as they can justify by quoting smu. smu is now more expensive than us. so we are charging below market rate. or smu up 30%. we up only 8%. that is a great anomaly. a miscarriage of justice. better up another 22% to make up.

anyone dare to say our university fees are expensive? it is not even peanuts.

what great universities we are having now. world class, in tuition fees.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matilah_Singapura said...
Just before I left to come back to Oz, one of the heads at SMU took me to lunch. I was then treated with a tour of the facilities. (I was being head hunted) Although there are some architectural and engineering "cockups" (IMO), the place is a great resource. The new nat library near by is also spectacular. I don't mind seeing my tax dollars spent this way.

That being said, I think it is very cheeky and sneaky for SMU to hike their fees.

BTW, I turned down the gig.

February 16, 2006 4:48 PM


redbean said...
it is good to know that people still value you.

it seems that the edict has been passed that all these universities can do whatever they want especially when money is concerned. and for money to be able to buy quality is a gospel truth that all those who matters fully concurs.

February 16, 2006 5:36 PM


Matilah_Singapura said...
Exactly. If they can do anything they like, imagine what they can do to you if you work for them - especially if you openly challenge them or openly and stridently disagree with them, without regard for anyone's feelings - the way I would most likely do. Wink

... let them get a "valuable" foreigner for the gig.

When I see any relationship - good, bad or disasterous, I always say to myself "they deserve each other". Smile)

February 16, 2006 8:51 PM


redbean said...
i think you miss the chance for them to pay you big bucks. just name your price man.

the students or consumers will end up paying for quality lecturers and professors like you. won't that be nice?

February 17, 2006 8:49 AM


Matilah_Singapura said...
No problem. I prefer to have less money than to be a slave to the sg.gov.

Anyway, who says they are the only people who pay "big bucks"? Fuck them. To any sensible person the one who pays the BIGGEST BUX is the MARKET. The more people you help, the richer you will be.

I really despise the tenured and tethered intellectuals who grow in carcinogenic communities in ACADEMIA, mostly funded by their political masters who rule the State.

Come lah, hot shot multiple PhD (Permanent head Damage)... come into the free market, and let's see how far those "book smarts" will take you in The Jungle Of The Street.

Dun pray pray. I have pai kia instincts. Wink

February 17, 2006 5:45 PM


redbean said...
we are all actors in different planes and fields. just act well and things will go well.

the academia too has a role to play. they helped to collect and organise data and pass it on.

the market shall determine how much each actor shall get. and not how much the actor dictates and others got no choice hut to pay him.

February 19, 2006 8:14 PM


redbean said...
what? nus and ntu going to learn from smu on how to raise tuition fee?

are they kdding? are they saying that a simple thing like this and they messed it up?

how can they deserve the big fat pay they are getting? my hr officers will be able to do a better job than this.

February 20, 2006 9:45 AM
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deception is good for the soul.

NUS is now ranked 19th among the great universities in the world by Times. Everyone is happy. NUS is now a great university. No body bothers to question the criteria that put NUS up there. Only those that find the criteria rather silly would dismiss the findings as another crap. And Newsweek came out with a different set of criteria and the ranking were all different.

The accounts people were very good at juggling numbers and creative accounting to make a company looks good. Academics can be equally brilliant to set their own criteria to make themselves look good. I too can set up a set of criteria to make NUS Number One. As long as NUS is Number One, that is all people want to know. NUS can even be Number One in the Guinness Book of World Record or in Sotong's Book of World Best, doesn't matter. NUS is Number One.

Now the reality. Even if today NUS is ranked Number One and Cambridge or Harvard are ranked 50th and 51st, where would students choose to study? Or would people care that there is a NUS that is ranked Number One?
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NUS and NTU ranking drop

The Times London Higher Education Supplement has ranked NUS and NTU at 33 and 69 respectively compared to 19 and 61 the previous year. This call for alarm. Our rankings have dropped!

Though the reports still considered the two universities as world class, they are dropping and will drop out of the top 100 soon. Jialat.

Actually, when looking at the criteria and how the rankings were done, it is a western biased and pseudo intellectual ranking that is as good as a straw poll from people on the streets. What is so great about being ranked high by using digits on number of foreign students or faculty staff or staff student ratio?

What is important should be the quality of the staff, their academic achievements and also the quality of the students produced. What is the point of ranking as number one when the students are all but average?
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Quality of tertiary education going up in 2008

The quality of tertiary education will go up between 4-10% in 2008. To be more specific, NUS and NTU's quality will be up by 4% and SMU up by 10%. This is if you are convinced that quality can be measured by money. The more money the better the quality.

At the rate we are going, we will soon be world best, better than Harvard and Stanford. All we need to do is to buy over all their top professors. And if we put Ah Meng's children in expensive universities with expensive professors, they will turn out more talented than cheaper universities.

Our graduates should rightly be paid a premium and be in hot demand around the world. We will have solved our lack of talent problems forever.
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NUS Law fees up 20%

I nearly missed out on this. 20% hike for NUS Law students. But that is fair given the amount of money they can make on graduation. After all all the parents interviewed believed in quality and don't mind paying for them.

So with the message that the higher the fees, the better the quality, I think all the parents would soon be demanding that the fees be raised higher. Then they can go around telling people how much they paid for quality education.
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Charity begins at home

'Amid calls by some US lawmakers for wealthy universities to lower tuition costs, officials at Stanford University have said they will no longer charge tuition to students from families earning less than US$100K (S$140K) a year.

For students whose families earn less than US$60K a year, Stanford will not charge for either tuition or room and board....Stanford is now among a small string of top tier schools, including Harvard, Yale and Pomona College, that have taken steps in recent months to help middle class families and, in some cases, households with incomes ovr US$150K....

"We will continue to evaluate international applications on a case by case basis."....' Reuters, Los Angeles Times, New York Times, Straits Times.

How would these compare to our policies on education? Oops cannot compare apple with oranges.
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Feb 23, 2008
Crane collapse kills three at NUS worksite
By Carolyn Quek & Diana Othman

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THREE construction workers died yesterday when the boom from a 72-tonne crane came crashing down at a worksite on the National Univer- sity of Singapore (NUS) campus.

Two of the workers were pinned under the massive steel structure, while the third was hit on the head, according to the Singapore Civil Defence Force.

The tragedy happened at about 2.15pm and the victims were pronounced dead by paramedics who arrived about 15 minutes later.

The Straits Times understands that two of the three were Singaporeans: 46-year- old Mohamad Homsen, believed to be the crane operator, and a 41-year-old worker whose name was not released yesterday.

Rescuers, using power tools and airbags, took 45 minutes to extricate the two men's bodies.

The third man who died was found lying on the ground beside the crane. He was a 44-year-old China national, whose name was also not made public.

Two other workers from China were hurt while trying to escape as the 60m-high crane toppled to the ground. They suffered cuts and bruises and were taken to the National University Hospital.

All five workers were employed by sub-contractors on the site.

The firms were redeveloping the area around the three- storey NUS Society Kent Ridge Guild House, with work scheduled for completion in April.

The Ministry of Manpower issued a stop-work order on the site, which is approximately the size of two football fields.

Eyewitnesses said that as the crane fell, it hit a tree and narrowly missed the bus stop near the NUS Business School.

Fourth-year psychology student Willie Chua was queuing for food at a nearby canteen when he saw the crane come crashing down.

'There was a thunderous sound...everyone at the bus stop looked really shocked,' he told The Straits Times.


http://www.straitstimes.com/Free/Story/STIStory_209348.html

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