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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:28 am    Post subject: The rise of India Reply with quote

The contrasting style of Modi and Deng Xiaoping
Narendra Modi is in Singapore on a 2 day official visit starting on 23 Nov. Globe trotting Modi has been awarded the Asian of the Year by the ST for having met the most leaders in his first year in office, his greatest achievement as a PM. By now he probably has met all the leaders of the world several times over and probably a Guinness Record is in order for this great feat. Modi’s visits anywhere is always met by large crowds of the India diaspora and an air of great expectations with his eloquent speeches of great promises of India become the next superpower and an economic powerhouse.
Modi’s visit to Singapore is no different and a 100,000 diaspora is awaiting him at Chennai Business Park, oops, I mean Changi Business Park. He is like a rock star and will be received with all the pomp and pageantry of a rock star.
In contrast, Deng Xiaoping was like a hermit, a leader that hardly made any trip overseas. Deng also did not make spectacular speeches and though his visit to Singapore did not end up speaking to 100,000 Chinese diaspora, the media did give him a good coverage, but not in the scale of Modi. It was strictly business, he came, he saw and he noted.
In that strategic trip to Singapore, great ideas were formed in the minds of Deng. If Singapore could do it, China could do better. And in Singapore he saw a working model that could kick start a new China that he was opening up to the world. After his return from this rare trip out of China, he sent delegations after delegations of Chinese officials to study what Singapore did and took the blueprints home for more analyses. The rest is history.
From what he saw in Singapore, it gave him enough ideas and motivation on what he wanted to turn China into. The rest was true grit and execution. Not many people would want to acknowledge it, that a single trip out of China could have such a great impact on the redevelopment of China. To a good mind, it only takes a spark, to ignite a dream and turn it into a reality. That is the difference. Deng launched a powerful wave of reforms never seen in anywhere else for centuries.
Modi would still be travelling around the world to make eloquent speeches of great promises. Would this trip to Singapore ignite in him a spark to transform India into a modern nation like what China is today? Maybe Modi could do more, with many more ideas he collected from all this overseas trips and the inspirations from many more countries.
Apologies for those who think Singapore should take full credit for the modernization of China. No, Singapore was just a catalyst to spark a dream. The rest are hard work and due diligence to turn a dream into a reality, to motivate a nation of 1.3b people to work for the China Dream. Only the Chinese could do this to rebuild their country to what it is today. If it is so easy, all the countries that wanted to emulate Singapore would also be great successful stories. Other than China, no one could do it the way China did, and in a scale unmatched over a mere 3 decades..
Turning a country into an economic powerhouse of modernity is not about eloquent speeches and copying a model. It is not so simple as that. When would Modi stop travelling, return to India and start working, to rebuild India into another economic powerhouse? Perhaps Singapore will be his last stop to build up all the ideas he needed to create another mammoth Asian economic giant.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Singapore to blame for Chennai flood
Chennai is hit by the worst flood in a century. Thousands are injured and the death toll hit 269 and rising. Millions of people have been cut off from basic services. The army has been put on a war footing. According to Agencies report, ‘Chennai has become a small island. This is unprecedented,’ said Home Minister Rajnath Singh. A Madrash University professor said, ‘It is shocking to see how (Chennai) has collapsed in the last 48 hours.’ ‘Experts said haphazard construction, faulty drainage and build up of rubbish contributed to the flooding.’
According to a CNA news reporter in Chennai, the problem is man made. They forgot to work on the drainage system with all the construction and economic activities in Chennai. And Modi is blaming on climate change.
Why would I say Singapore is to be blamed for the flood inn Chennai? The answer, most of the flood and irrigation/drainage experts are now in Singapore, working in Singapore. That’s why Singapore has no flood but Chennai got flood. We have taken all their experts as foreign talents here.
It is time Singapore returns India the favour, send the Indian experts working here to India and do something for India. They can come back to their well paying jobs here when they have helped India and Chennai with their irrigation/drainage and flood problems. The flood problem in Singapore is already solved. No longer a once in 50 years problem. Now with the contribution of the Indian experts it may be once in 100 years or never again.
Let’s do something for Chennai first. Hold your fire on building 100 smart cities. Take care of the flood and drainage problems first.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

India’s superpower dream
It is natural that a country with more than 1b people and going to be the most populous nation in the world, India will aspire to be a superpower one day. The reawakening of the Indian civilization and the realization of its potential, if every Indian could earn a per capital income half of what an average American is getting, India will be rich like hell and its GDP many times bigger than the Americans. For the time being, India knows that it is a far fetch dream to overtake the Americans. Its main target is China, to over take China in everyway, to be the Number One in Asia. No need to be bothered about overtaking Japan.
The thinking of the Indian elite and political leaders is clear and manifested in every inch of Indian literature and the Indian mass media. They talk, sleep and dream of being the Number One super power in Asia. And China is the target to beat. The Indians did not hide their ambition. They are not contented with just the Indian Ocean. Never mind if the Americans is controlling the Indian Ocean through their stronghold military fortress in Diego Garcia. Over taking the Americans and chasing them away from the Indian Ocean can wait. China is what India is looking out for.
The Indians have been playing military war games with the Americans and the Japanese, in the Indian Ocean, in the South China Sea and in the East China Sea, to show to the world that Indi has arrived and is extending its influence to the Pacific Ocean. To over take China is tough. What India could hope for is to hold back China, keep China in check, not by India of course, but to play the American and Japanese game, using the two to contain China.
In an article by a Brahma Chellaney in the Today paper on 21 Dec, taken from a Project Syndicate source, this Indian professor wrote, ‘Why China must pay a cost for its actions in South China Sea’. It took the same stance as the West, that China has no right to the islands it is claiming, calling China’s historical claim weak. And he is suggesting that the Americans and the Japanese, together with Little India, the superpower aspirants, to take on China with a big stick, to extract a price on China for developing the islands.
He totally ignores the rights of the Chinese to develop their own islands, their own land and territories. From the China’s perspective, a Chinese professor would have written, ‘Why can’t China develop its own islands in the South China Sea?’ It all depends on which side one is taking and what logic or assumption one is taking. To the Chinese, it is perfectly normal for them to develop what is in their territory, even extracting all the oil and resources from the surround sea. To those who want to have a share of these resources, they would want to challenge China’s claim and want a piece of the resources for themselves.
For India, this is a great opportunity to prod the Americans and Japanese to get into an open conflict with China, and the bystander would stand to gain when they fight. The Indian super power dream will be realized earlier if these powers ended up destroying each other over the little islands in the South China Sea.
Every player has a game plan to favour their vested interests. There is a confluence of interest in the Americans, Japanese and Indians to want to go to stir trouble with China in Chinese territory. It will be a power play and will be decided by who carries the bigger stick. And to the players and adventurers, is the stake big enough, good enough to play with fire.
China could play the same game as India. But India is too far behind to worry China. Even Japan is no issue. China’s main concern is the Americans. China will tackle the Americans in many other ways that would hurt the Americans more than wanting a war in the South China Sea. China must copy the American doctrine of fighting wars away from its shores and create trouble for the Americans away from China. The Americans are thinking that they are in control of the situation and having the upper hand. When they could not even deal with Syria, with ISIS and the Russians, they must be dreaming that they can take on China and thinking it is another cakewalk.
China is unlikely to go into war with the Americans militarily. There are many options and cards the Chinese can play. Boosting the Russian efforts in Syria would be a good start and drag the Americans into a bigger war in the Middle East. As for ambitous India, happy dreaming. They are not a factor in the Chinese calculus for a long time to come. They are irrelevant no matter how loud they shouted.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Second Sino Indian border war in the making
The lesson in 1962 was not taken seriously, or not hard enough for India to learn not to trifle with the PLA. In 1962, the PLA was literally a peasant army, poorly equipped, against the India Army, equipped with the best leftovers from the British Empire. Still, given the advantage of modern weapons and several years of preparation in the building of the 4th Army Corp and the element of surprise and initiative, India was knocked unconscious within a matters of 2 weeks by the PLA.
Today the world is looking at almost an identical situation in the China Bhutan border. Though again India is claiming that China was the provocateur like in 1962, the facts today are current and fresh for all to see. China was building a road along the China Bhutan border, nothing to do with India except that Bhutan was a de facto protectorate of India. India claimed that it was Bhutan that was asking India to intervene though it was obvious that it was India that wanted to intervene in the dispute. And India took the first step to move troops into the disputed area but accusing China of doing so. In the first place the dispute has nothing to do with India.
Now both sides are moving thousands of troops to the region. And India, like in 1962, is saying that it would not back down, spoiling for a fight with China. India must not forget that the PLA today is fully operational and supported by all the four arms of China’s military might, modern and well equipped that India can never think of matching. There is nothing that Indians have that is superior or equivalent to what the Chinese have.
This time the mismatch in the two forces is even more stark though India as usual thinks it has an upper hand and would want to try its luck a second time. This time the PLA would not be so gracious and merciful and the body blow would be hard and heavy. The China of today is no longer in a state to be nice to India. And if the Indians think they want to play with fire, with implicit support from the Americans, then they would be in for a rude shock.
India may think it has arrived, that it is a world power and could do as it pleased, even to take on China. Go ahead, but don’t regret when history repeats itself. The first time was ignorance, the second time is stupidity, to repeat the same mistake. This time the Chinese are well prepared and no more surprises and sneak attacks. The Chinese will deal with the Indian forces head on from day one. They are ready, knowing what the Indians would do from the 1962 experience to take advantage of a surprise attack against an unprepared enemy. This time China is waiting.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The myth of Bhutan’s happiness
Recently Singaporeans have been bombarded with the myth that Bhutan is the heaven on earth where the Bhutanese are the happiest people in the world. There are some truths on this statement without the ’buts’ being exposed. The happy Bhutanese are as happy as the caged canaries. A caged bird’s happiness is about living in a cage with food provided, secure and safe from the paws of a hungry cat and ignorant of what lies outside the cage.
Bhutan is in all definition a protectorate of India. It has an agreement with India, supposedly signed voluntarily and happily, that India guides its foreign policies ie India decides its relations with other states. In the current border dispute with China, or India’s border dispute with China by actually hijacking Bhutan’s border to start a dispute with China, it was repeatedly highlighted that Bhutan has no diplomatic relations with China. It did not say that Bhutan also did not have diplomatic relations with all five powers of the UN Security Council. Why would not Bhutan want to have relations with the five powers or with more countries of the world? Because India decides it to be so. Having relations with other powers and countries would be bad as it would reduce the influence and control of India over Bhutan.
Why didn’t Bhutan wants to participate in the BRI project? A landlocked country would definitely benefitted from more access to the rest of the world. No, India would not allow that. India would not allow Bhutan to have FDIs other than those from India. Japan and European countries and now China would like to invest in Bhutan. But permission was not allowed. Whose permission? Bhutan or India?
Bhutan has very little trading activities and trade relations with other countries, not allowed to participate in such activities. On the surface, Bhutanese love to remain in their present state of heaven and are very happy with their way of life and want to be protected to be in this state of living forever.
Is this what the Bhutanese want or what India imposed on the Bhutanese? The current border trouble with China, or is it Bhutan’s trouble with China or India’s trouble with China? India is claiming that China wants to invest in Bhutan, wants more relations with Bhutan and wants Bhutan to participate in the BRI project. But Bhutan refused and wanted to remain a protectorate of India, did not want to open up, want to remain a happy cage bird, look after and fed by India, and to remain a nation of very happy canaries. Oops.
What do you think is the truth? Do the Bhutanese have any aspirations and ambitions to be a free people, to decide what is good for them, to be a normal country like everyone else? Are they really happy to be canaries in a cage?
The current border dispute is India's excuse to move in troops into Bhutan to strengthen its control over Bhutan in the name of protecting Bhutan. And Bhutan could hardly say anything within the approval of India. The canary can only sing but not speak up for its own interests.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hubris of an Indian chatter in the Indian media
The Indians are now gloating about their success in standing up ‘to defend’ a small weak state like Bhutan by sending Indian soldiers to stop Chinese road building along the China Bhutan border. And they are grinning from ear to ear that all China could do was to bluff that it would teach India a second lesson while Modi ‘kept his cool, refusing to respond to any Chinese threat, much less withdraw its forces according to Bhrahma Chellaney in his article ‘Calling China’s bluff: Why scare tactics won’t work’ in the Today paper on 14 August.
His reasoning, supposedly someone credible from Project Syndicate, is that China is a warmonger and trying to bluff India by using psywar. India is not afraid of China as it has many advantages and cards to play over China. China would not dare attack the Indian soldiers inside Chinese border for doing so would push India into the American embrace. India is a big market and China would not want to jeopardize it US$60b trade surplus with India. And Xi Jinping would not dare to start a war with India as it would affect his position should he lose the war. China is in a dilemma. So Xi would need India’s help to extricate himself from this stand off to protect his image as a tough leader. Basically what he said is that China is a loser in all counts in this incident.
Chellaney even said the standoff and India’s standing up to China is an important lesson to other regional states to stand up to China, to call China’s bluff as a big bully. India is setting the example for others to follow.
China is now hapless against a tough India and would eventually back off and stop its road building work in the China Bhutan border. India is well fortified, well prepared and in a militarily superior position, just like in the 1962 war.
Who is the big bully and who is going to be evicted from the border is waiting to be seen. Let’s see how long this hilarious gloating would continue, just like the early days of the 1962 Sino Indian border war when they arrogantly thought China would be a pushover and splashed across all the Indian media with their initial successes against unprepared Chinese border guards taken by surprise. By now China would have done all its preparation and waiting for an order to evict the Indian soldiers in Chinese territory.
History is going to repeat itself. The China of today is even prepared to take on the Americans together with all its allies. China hapless against India?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is China hesitating and not chasing the Indian soldiers out of its territory?
The Indian soldiers have been in the Chinese territory on the Sino Bhutan border on the pretext of protecting Bhutan’s territory from China. They moved in to stop the Chinese from building roads in an area between China and Bhutan that is not Indian territory. China has given several warnings for the Indians to withdraw voluntarily but the Indians have stayed put in defiance, violating Chinese territorial integrity.
The Indians arrogantly spoke of their superior military strength and completely ignored the Chinese warnings. They have reasons to do so as they came well prepared just like in 1962. The Chinese were caught off guard as their people on the ground were construction workers with a few border guards that were not prepared for an Indian incursion. The Indians have been amassing their troops at the border and any hasty and unprepared reaction by the Chinese border guards would be dealt a severe blow by the Indians.
India has been preparing for this day since the humiliating defeat in the 1962 Sino Indian border war. The shame inflicted on the Indians was too much to swallow and till today they are still claiming that they were caught unprepared despite building up a dedicated 4th Army Corp specifically to seize the disputed territories from China. Now they have stationed their elite 33rd Army at the border region, all prepared for war with China. The 33rd Army is backed by Brahmos missiles, Sukhoi 30s bought from Russia, Apache helicopters and field guns and tanks bought from the Americans. The Chinese would be knocked unconscious if they dared to chase the Indian soldiers out of their territory without proper preparations.
This is a major reason why the Chinese are still not acting. They would also want the whole world to know that it is the Indians that are encroaching on Chinese land. In the meantime they would need to move in their air force, armies and anti aircraft and anti missile units to defend against the Indian forces lined up along the Sino Indian border. The Indians are very confident that they could take on the Chinese and avenge their defeat in 1962 this time with a well prepared military force, like their very well prepared 4th Army Corp. Only after the humiliating defeat then that they put blame on their unpreparedness. This time they are on record claiming that they are well prepared and would win this war and could not hide under another excuse of not being prepared if defeated again. And this time it is on record that they have intruded into Chinese territory.
The Chinese would need time to prepare themselves in the face the massive deployment of Indian forces along the border. This is not going to be a quick and decisive war with just foot soldiers. It is going to involve missiles, artillery and the air forces unless the Chinese can get it over with quickly. While everyone is wondering when would this war begin, the Chinese would be building up their forces to meet the Indian forces, might with might, men for men, machine for machine. This is not play play game. This is serious and going to be big. A military offensive to defend their territory occupied by an invading force cannot be taken lightly.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

China hopes India has learnt from Doklam stand off
The Indians withdrew their soldiers from Chinese territory prior to Modi attending the BRICS Summit in China. India announced that both Chinese and Indian troops have withdrawn from the area for some face saving. Why or how would Chinese troops have to withdraw from being in Chinese territory?
From this statement it clearly shows that India did not learn anything despite China’s warning and military build up to drive the Indian soldiers from its territory. While China has never treated India as enemy, India has consistently treated China as enemy for many reasons. The land that India claimed were never India's land in the first place. Neither was India a natural country but a contrived amalgamation of land put together when the British colonized the subcontinent and called it their colony, and subsequently gave it independence, lock, stock and barrel, including all the land the British seized from China arbitrarily by drawing a new map with new borders in the British favour.
This land grabbing by the British, and subsequently the Indians too want to claim that these were Indian land is the seed of territorial dispute between India and China that led to the first Sino Indian border war in 1962. India is insistent to keep these land the British grabbed from China when it was not a country, not a nation. India is a country of mix bags of loose states put together by the British, at one time including Pakistan and Bangladesh.
India also harbours the grandeur of big power status and felt aggrieved that China is richer and more powerful and also sees that as a sore point. To India, China cannot be better and more powerful than India. India’s mission is to be richer and more powerful than China and is also in its own race and haste to out perform China. Though China has no historical enmity with India, very few records of historical territorial disputes or invasion, India has been psychoing itself that China is going to invade to run over India. China is the demon that India has created for itself and unable to shrug off this make belief.
China has been very patient and tolerant in this border incursion by India and has given India all the time and space to withdraw peacefully. But this kindness would not be appreciated and would be seen by the Indians as a sign of weakness and would encourage the Indians for more border incursions in the future.
This withdrawal is not the end of the Indian story and more would come. China should not have any misplaced hope that India has learnt any lesson in Doklam. Their mentality would push them for more mischiefs in the borders separating the two countries.
India is behaving like the Americans and the West in trying to stop the growth and rise of China. It refused to be part of the BRI and ended up being left out in the cold with progress and development bypassing the Indian subcontinent. If there is anything the Indians could learn from China to achieve its wet dream of becoming a rich super power, it should take a close look at how China progresses and leapfrogged over Europe and Japan to become the second superpower in all ways and going to overtake the Americans in a matter of time.
The Chinese did not try to create trouble for anyone but put their heads together to work really hard, planned their growth path and put every ounce of energy into it to make China what it is today. It is all about undying effort and determination, a lot of sweat and tears to rebuild a new China, staying away from wars and political bickering. If India could see this success formula and get its act together, it is a matter of time before India would also be a success story. The daily bickering and self delusion of greatness would not make India great but a chain to hold back India's rise as another superpower. Would India learn from the China experience and work for its own success rather than trying to be a bad boy in the region, behaving like the Americans and the West, and now hiding under cloak and dagger with the Japanese to derail the Chinese growth engine.
The American experience is tragic failure as a big power is another case for India to learn. Spent your money and resources wisely on economic reconstruction and development instead of wasting precious resources on arms and the military and everyday thinking of war. And stop lying with the myth that China is going to invade India. The Americans have squandered their decades of being the top dog by investing in nothing but military and weapons of wars. They have given up their leadership in economic development and the leader in science and technology for the good of mankind. Their only product today is weapons of war and to pursue wars to sell their weapons of destruction.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modi visits China



These two big countries of Asia met again in Wuhan, China, with Modi making a scale down official visit short of a state visit by the head of a state. Nonetheless it is a good step forward to minimise tension and perhaps a small step towards more talks to reach some understanding in the territorial dispute and India's hyped obsession that China is going to invade and take over India.

Historically the two states had not gone to war or invade each other until the sneaky border war in 1962. There were natural barriers separating the two states and the centre of economic and political activities were far from the border. Further more, there was no state called India until the British colonised the land of the maharajas and tribal chiefs and subsequently gave it independence. Even independence was subjective as far as national boundaries were concerned. Not only India was an artificiality, there were no Pakistans before the colonisation, and the British carved up two states in the east and west of India and called them East and West Pakistan.

The whole damn shit in the subcontinent was the work of the British colonial masters that sailed from distant Europe to create states. And they drew up the boundaries for the natives that were not nation states then. India's trouble with China is the McMahon Lines. Who is this cunt that thought he was the lord of the day to draw lines between China and India and dictated to the two countries that the lines were the boundaries?

The questionable act of arbitrarily drawing lines freely by a foreign agent, an agent of colonialism, is now quoted by India as the authoritative source of their claims to Chinese land. Why would China want to accept the dictates of the British colonial power and let their land be written away from them? On what ground or reasons?

Why would India, a non state that became a new state in 1947 so happy to accept the lines drawn by their ex colonial master to make claims against Chinese land? Simple, it is land that did not belong to India but the British Raj said it belonged to India. So India die die insists that the land belongs to India because their colonial master said so.

The two countries should start from a fresh ground and stop relying on the colonial shit as the governing principle to settle their land dispute. The British were there to claim and conquer land belonging to other states and people. They did everything for their own interest under the power of the gun. If India does not remove this colonial hangover and insists that the British Raj was the authority to decide the land belonged to which state, then it is an unacceptable premise to start with.

And India should stop its silly hallucination that China is there to invade and grab Indian land, even invading India. This kind of unfriendly and hostile mindset would not do any good to bilateral relations. This is the 21st Century and acquisition of territories by war and by force is no longer acceptable except for the evil Empire. There are many smaller states around China and there is no fear of China invading them and taking them by force. Outer Mongolia with a population of 5/6 million was part of China, seceded due to Russian betrayal, but China is not even attempting to take it back by force. It could if it wants to.

The earlier the Indians removed this self deluded hysteria of China harbouring an intention to want to invade and conquer India, the earlier would they come to terms of the new reality and their senses and be at peace with themselves and with China. The fear of China is self induced. The territorial dispute is created by the British Raj and China or any country would not accept a foreigner or foreign power from afar to decide their territories.

When would India let go of this colonial hangover and start to think clearly and talk to China with sincerity and not living with its self delusion and fear of China? Why would China want to invade and inherit a subcontinent of problems that have little commonality with China
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sino Indian border war - A revelation of unpleasant truth still guarded as state secret
Two weeks ago, the Australian journalist Neville Maxwell finally made part of the Henderson Brooks report public, by putting it up on his blog. The report was an internal Indian Army enquiry into its rout in the 1962 war with China — Maxwell was the New Delhi correspondent for The Times, London, at the time — but in the 51 years since the report was written up by Lt Gen Henderson Brooks and Brig PS Bhagat, successive Indian governments have refused to make it public. Only two copies of the report were thought to be in existence, although there was never any doubt that Maxwell had had access to the report for his 1970 book India's China War quoted extensively from it. In his first interview to the Indian media since he made the report public, the now 88-year-old Maxwell tells Parakram Rautela that he had been trying to make the report public for years but that nobody would publish it. He adds that he was only able to get hold of Volume I of the report, minus 45 pages, and that he never laid eyes on Volume II. And of course he still blames Nehru for the war, not the Chinese. Excerpts:
Q: You suggest India's official account of the cause of the 1962 border war is false. What, in your view, is the truth?

NM: By September 1962 the Indian "forward policy" of trying to force the Chinese out of territory India claimed had built up great tension in the Western (Ladakh) sector of the border, with the Chinese army just blocking it. Then the Nehru government applied the forward policy to the McMahon Line eastern sector and when the Chinese blocked that too India in effect declared war with Nehru's announcement on October 11 that the Army had been ordered to "free our territory", which meant to attack the Chinese and drive them back. As General Niranjan Prasad, commander of 4 Division, wrote later: "We at the front knew that since Nehru had said he was going to attack, the Chinese were certainly not going to wait to be attacked" — and of course they didn't. That's how the war began. The Chinese attack was both reactive, in that General Kaul had begun the Indian assault on October 10, and pre-emptive because after that failure the Indian drive had been suspended to build up strength for a resumed attack....



While India continues to tell its lies that it was the victim of Chinese aggression and continues to blame the Chinese for the 1962 border war, more and more information are being disclosed by independent authors using classified India documents to prove who was the real devil in the conflict.

Deny as much as they want to deceive their own people and people of the war, the aggressive and hostile nature of the Indian govt have not changed since then, with wild ambitions to be a world power, to the extend of harbouring intention of seizing Chinese land and controlling its neighbouring states as protectorates and colonies, elevating itself as a regional hegemon.

The facts speak for itself. The so called Chinese intent to grab Indian land sounded hollow when the Chinese soldiers withdrew from India after the counter offensive, released all prisoners of war, returned all weapons captured, and returned to the original line of control...till today.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When India and China shake hands, it would shake the world

It was reported that China and India settled a dispute over the flood-prone Brahmaputra river from Tibet to Bangladesh during the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation meeting on 9 Jun 18 in a sign of growing cooperation between them. A part from the border disputes caused by the British colonial power, there is really no major issues that would lead to a conflict between the two countries. Historically there had been no such rivalry or war between the two states. They are so different and divided by a natural physical border. Both exist in their own ways without being entangled in each other's affairs. The border dispute is best settled through negotiation as war would never resolve the dispute for eternity peace.



There will be rivalry and competition in the aspiration of the two countries wanting to be major powers and rich economies. These are not necessarily antagonistic as each could grow on its own pace without any reason to go to war. There can be two super powers in Asia with both coexisting peacefully. The days of military conquest of the western powers are over. Only the West still think that military might and conquest and world domination are the way forward. China has proven this wrong as China is a super power without firing a single bullet, without invading and seizing countries to become its colonies.




The Indians must change their mindset of make belief that China is out to conquer India. This shitty idea is unreal but has bugged the Indian psychic for the last few decades. India must rise from its medieval thoughts of greatness and empire building and using wars to settle issues. Once India removes this antiquated thought, it would see a brighter future by cooperating with China and the rest of Asia for economic growth and prosperity. There are so much complementarity between the two countries and both can grow at a much faster pace to achieve greatness together as peaceful nations instead of wasting time and resources on military hardware and war of words.




The SCO provides a new platform for peace loving nation to cooperate to achieve economic growth and well being through trade unlike the western models that keep harping on wars and on buying more weapons of wars. Nations can grow and prosper peacefully without going to wars. Asian was thrown into centuries of wars not because they were fighting each other by conquered by the colonial powers and made to fight each other. Asian countries should learn from this sad history and forge a new path forward where Asians would be united and cooperate to keep Asia free from conflicts incited by the western powers.




When the big countries of Asian shake hands, not just India and China, but Russia, Japan, the Koreas, central Asian and SE Asian countries, they will change the world and bring prosperity to Asia and the rest of the world.

PS. Unfortunately the Indian ego is still ruling the Indian psychic and they have refused to be part of the BRI which means self imposed isolation from the New Silk Road linking Asia and Europe, without India. They would be locked out, left out of the new trade route and dynamics. Down the road India would be blaming China for excluding India from the BRI, not India's fault.
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