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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:09 am    Post subject: Amos Yee Affair Reply with quote

Posted on 31 Mar 15

Amos Yee – How sick can we be?
A 16 year old, I was bowled over by his articulation and command of the language, was arrested over a self produced YouTube clip ranting about LKY with a heavy dosage of vulgarities. With 15 police reports made against him, and for the subject of his video attack, somehow a police intervention was quite expected in this uptight little city that wanted to be known as a cosmopolitan city to stand side by side with New York or London and other famous western cities.
Is the arrest of Amos a case of maintaining law and order? Or is it a case of throwing the book at anyone when a police report is made? Is what this young man, or an adolescent, said that serious that it would cause rioting in the streets? There are many assholes in blogs that uttered even worst comments than this Amos kid. A flutter of a butterfly in the Pacific Ocean could cause a storm? Not every flutter will cause a storm, maybe one in a million.
Such a ranting is not uncommon in the internet or even in the kopitiams. So, are the police going to arrest everyone who committed this crime of ranting against somebody, against a religion, against the govt? My impression after viewing the video clip was nothing more than a young man letting go some steam maybe for some publicity. Period. It does not go any further to envisage what more harm it would bring to anyone, or to create a social and security problem. Sure some highly sensitive people would feel hurt or agitated. Remember the UOB Annual Dinner and Dance theme when some racist minded cried racism because some of the staff dressed in different ethnic gear. Would the police arrest them if there was a police report or several police reports made? If a society cannot live with such a video clip in the YouTube and demands action be taken in every such cases, I think the enforcing officer will not have time for anything else. Block the YouTube, lock down the internet. Close down all the kopitiams.
What kind of society do we want to live in? Do we want a society that is filled with paranoids, everyone rushing to the police station to make a police report when they feel hurt, their feather got ruffled and the police will jump to their becks and calls? And every ranting is a national security threat?
My recommendation. In addition to the Cardboard Police Division, have a Robocop unit to answer to such complaints and let the Robocop store it in their harddrive for perpetuity, to be forgotten. The Police are already short of manpower, let them do the important jobs than chasing after kids or whenever a highly sensitive asshole makes a report.
It is about time that the knuckle duster be put away for good, that our people, our children, should be treated as one of us, to be dealt with as people and not enemies of the state, to be whipped, to be put away for every little indiscretion or ranting? A 16 year old boy arrested because of a few expletives and someone’s feeling got hurt? Did anyone shout, ‘Horror, this boy is dangerous!’
On the other hand there was an adult who threatened to cut the boy’s prick was found to be safer and allowed to go scot free? Who is more dangerous? This adult is in the same mold as that Raymond who threatened bodily harm, and imagine that these characters are part of the power equation? This place is going to be a very dangerous place not because of boys like Amos Yee but with psychopaths behaving like above the law gangsters.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posted on 2 Apr 15

Amos Yee – The charges
Amos Yee and his parents appeared in court yesterday to face the following charges for his YouTube video clip. ‘Police said Amos will face charges in court today under Section 298 of the Penal Code for utterances against Christians with a “deliberate intent to wound religious feelings”. Other charges include circulating an obscene object and making threatening, abusive or insulting communication which is likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress. The Straits Times’
Read carefully and you will notice how serious the charges are. ‘Deliberate intent to wound religious feelings’ means that the act was intentional and touching on a taboo area in the city state, ie religion and religious feeling. These two points are serious and not to ‘pray pray’ with.
The other adjectives used, ‘threatening, abusive or insulting,…likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress’ …to who? Amos’ offending words were in the YouTube. You know what is the YouTube? A YouTube is like a private document, not sold on the street sides, not forced onto the audience like the TV or Radio, demanding your attention. If you want to view the clip you would have to intentionally access it through a gadget or computer. You seek for the video or info. They don’t come breathing down your neck. Amos did not ask anyone to go to his YouTube to listen to him. The viewers seek to view on his own volition. The viewers trepassed into his video or a blog. He did not broadcast to everyone. Intent?
Perhaps all YoutTube postings or blogs should have a privacy clause, ‘The material or info is private, enter or view at your own risk’. Now, would this make a difference and protect the author from being accused of being intentional or threatening anyone, or harassment or causing alarm and distress to others? A YouTube or blog is passive. If a person does not intent to visit, the person would not notice anything or be offended by its content. Someone shitting in the toilet, another one enters and feels offended by the shit. The person shitting has intent to shit on him? So very funny. Actually it is not funny at all.
But in this city state, the law is the law. Just obey the law and know the peculiarities of the law that is uniquely Singapore. Enter at your own risk. I mean visiting YouTube or blogs.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posted on 19 Apr 15

God is forgiveness

I must confess again that I am not a Christian and I am not representing any religious group when I say God is forgiveness or things about God. From the little I know, God is Almighty and can never be harmed by the words of a boy. And He is all loving and all kindness, with a big heart. God will have forgiven the boy for any blasphemous remarks against him. He is not petty. Any believer who is hurt by Amos Yee’s remark and disagree with my comment on the kindness of God, please feel free to disagree with me, a layman, and not a believer.

I think it would be a very nice gesture for the heads or elders of the religion to step forward to forgive the boy for his rude comments. The magnanimity and kindness will be felt by everyone, by Amos Yee and his parents, that God is kind and forgiving. God will not be going after his blood for a juvenile rant.

So far I have not seen or heard any statement from anyone that Amos is forgiven. Maybe this boy’s words cannot be forgiven. Maybe this boy has said something that is unforgiveable.

Is there anything that is unforgiveable? I have written a few articles about forgiving and I also said that there are times when it is not right to forgive when the attacker is not a child but a smart ass and doing harm to others for selfish reasons and consciously knowing the harm he is causing to the victim. The vicious intent to do harm to promote one’s selfish cause is an entirely different ballgame.

I think Amos Yee, due to his tender age, does not fit into the category of assholes that should not be forgiven. Not forgiving an asshole is not to encourage him to continue to be an asshole and enjoying it.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amos Yee: It is happening – The flutter of a butterfly
This is going to be the flutter of a butterfly that turned into a storm. Roy Ngerng, the unpretentious young man working as a social worker in a hospital was charged for slandering the Prime Minister. Then he went for broke. While waiting for the court’s judgement on the sum he has to pay as compensation, he must be expecting this to be prohibitive, Roy has taken a stance that there is nothing to lose. He is going to fight for every inch of the ground. He has internationalized his case by speaking to the world.
Now there is the case of a 16 year old boy, Amos Yee, being charged for sedition for his rant in a youtube video clip. He is still under detention as his parents could not put up the bail. While some were muddling around on how to help this boy, some already started crowd funding to raise fund for this legal battle, here comes Roy.
Roy has written an open letter of appeal for help to these international agencies, to take up the case of Amos Yee on the ground of child abuse. This is what he wrote in his letter, ‘On 29 March 2015, a 16-year-old boy Amos Yee was arrested and charged on 31 March 2015, just two days later, after he made a video which criticised the late first prime minister of Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew. Amos also spoke about the high income inequality in Singapore and attributed it to the first prime minister as well….’
UNICEF:
Catherine Barnett, CPWG
Children Rights Manifesto:
Child Rights Information Network:
Save the Children:
Defence for Children:
International Institute for Child Rights and Development:
Child Helpline International:
Free The Children
ActionAid

The internalization of this case, if successful, is not going to look good to the govt. The question is whether these agencies would respond to Roy’s letter or ignore him. Then would the other human rights groups and local activists pick up the cudgel?
In the internet there has been a lot of comments and agitation for more to be done for Amos Yee. Where would these two cases lead to? Can the govt afford to ignore them, keep quite, don’t do anything and let the court to go through its due processes? If the foreign agencies and the UN choose not act, things could die down very quickly. But if these agencies start to make a case with the govt, then it is not pretty.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amos Yee – A few good men
Amos Yee was remanded, and remained in Changi Prison for 4 days as reported in the ST, when his parents failed to bail him out. It was like the end of the world. Without M Ravi, there seems to be no lawyers left in this island. And all the activists and human rights groups too were not anywhere to be found. It must be a very uncomfortable moment when hope has gone on sabbatical. Just when the people were lost as to what to do, looking around but no one is there to lend a helping hand to this child, despair and fear crept in.
And the ever efficient, uncompromising and professional police, knowing how dangerous this boy is, or how serious the charges are, made sure that he would not be up to any mischief anymore. The boy was handcuffed and his legs shackled, this one reported in the main media but no photographs, the images of Guantanamo flashed through my mind, and taken to court to hear the charges.
Below is copied from an article in TRE.

‘3 charges have been leveled against Amos under Section 298 and Section 292(1)(a) of the Penal Code, and Section 4(1)(b) of the Protection from Harassment Act:
Penal Code
Uttering words, etc., with deliberate intent to wound the religious or racial feelings of any person
298. Whoever, with deliberate intention of wounding the religious or racial feelings of any person, utters any word or makes any sound in the hearing of that person, or makes any gesture in the sight of that person, or places any object in the sight of that person, or causes any matter however represented to be seen or heard by that person, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 3 years, or with fine, or with both.
Sale of obscene books, etc.
292. (1) Whoever -
(a) sells, lets to hire, distributes, transmits by electronic means, publicly exhibits or in any manner puts into circulation, or for purposes of sale, hire, distribution, transmission, public exhibition or circulation, makes, produces, or has in his possession any obscene book, pamphlet, paper, drawing, painting, representation or figure, or any other obscene object whatsoever;
shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 3 months, or with fine, or with both.
Protection from Harassment Act (2014)
Harassment, alarm or distress
4. (1) No person shall by any means -
(a) use any threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour; or
(b) make any threatening, abusive or insulting communication,
which is heard, seen or otherwise perceived by any person (referred to for the purposes of this section as the victim) likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress.
(2) Any person who contravenes subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and, subject to section 8, shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $5,000.’

These are very serious charges. As the door was closing down on this boy, 3 lawyers appeared from no where to act on behalf of the boy on pro bono basis. And a good Christian counselor, or an ‘activist’ as reported in the main media, wondering what that word connotes, came out with the bail. Vincent Law, a family and youth counselor, said, ‘I am a Christian and it seems that the charge said that he made disparaging remarks against Christianity. I’m a Christian and I’m stepping up to say that I’m not offended. I’m also a parent and I feel for his parents.’ It is good that a Christian stood up to show that they have nothing against the boy and Amos is a boy and is forgiven. Hope this would settle the offending remarks against the Christian community and no Christians or Christians would come out to say their feelings are hurt or they felt harassed.
The 3 lawyers representing Amos Yee are Alfred Dodwell, Chong Jia Hao and Ervin Tan. Their position is that Amos is a boy and he has the right to be defended in the court of law to get a fair hearing. It is so refreshing to know that there are still some good men around to give a helping hand in times of desperation. What a relief for Amos, for his parents and for Singapore and Singaporeans to see that there is still light at the end of the tunnel. In the darkest hour, there is hope, there is God. And there is justice and righteousness. Hope I am not wrong on this.
A few good men, commanded by their conscience, have stood out to come to the aid of a hapless boy facing incredible odds, fighting for his freedom alone against the machinery of the state and the rule of law.
This boy really needs all the help available. God, your helping hand is needed to see that justice is done.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amos Yee - A piece of trivial news

The boy, Amos Yee, was hit by a man outside the court when he turned up to hear the charges against him for insulting religion and God. After hitting the boy the man ran off but not before shouting ‘Sue me, sue me’ in front of journalists waiting outside the court for the boy’s appearance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ17hfhI0C0

The news, though trivial, is now the hottest topic in the social media. People were shocked at the audacity and defiance against the law and order of the city state. All kinds of rumours are speculating in the social media as to the ‘who and why’ of this attack and how the man was able to get away without anyone thinking it necessary to apprehend him. Conspiracy theory seems to be having a very high rating here. Many were pointing the finger at you know who and have made all kinds of conjectures and the disappointment of how such a brazen act of defiance of the law could happen in broad daylight, in front of the court house, and in front of so many people, many armed with cameras.

I am sure the super efficient men in blue would have no problem taking this man into custody as the incident was captured by so many cameras and seen by so many eyewitnesses. Justice will be served for sure. No need to make wild speculation and gesticulations. Save the middle finger.

The issue is that this likely to be an isolated incident and of an aggrieved public taking the law into his own hand. Pure and simple as that. Would this be seen as a criminal act or as another private matter and the boy be told to take a civil suit against the assailant? Just wondering how the charges could be made, the hitting was like a hard slap. Can it be justified as causing serious bodily harm? Would it be assault or just a case of being a public nuisance?

The Law Minister Shanmugam has commented in his Facebook that this kind of acts is unacceptable. I am sure he would have given his order to get the culprit arrested ASAP. No sweat except for Amos Yee and his parents. If it is a civil suit, would they have the money to pursue the case?
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amos Yee – A new divide

The flutter of a butterfly has morphed into many butterflies fluttering in this island. When the fluttering of a butterfly is allowed to go flapping unrestrained you will get a storm brewing. The Amos Yee Incident has led to the gravitating of two groups, one hating him and wanting him to be lynched and another calling for understanding as he is just a wayward boy and needing guidance. When no one thinks it is right and prudent to tell the lynching mobs to back off, the mob went wild.

In the beginning there were the verbal threats of bodily harm to the boy, and this was followed by a man hitting the boy outside the court house. And there were applause from silly adults, supposedly responsible people, that the boy deserved it. And the icing to top up this comic tragedy of vicious attacks against a boy, a book store put up an insensitive tweet that went viral. I quote from an article in TRE on this,

‘Meanwhile, Popular bookstore posted an insensitive tweet on Twitter capitalizing on the “slapping incident” of Amos Yee.
It poked fun of Amos by putting up a picture of Famous Amos cookies and tweeting “Sorry you got slapped. Here, have some cookies on us!”.
Netizens were outraged and heavily criticised Popular bookstore. Many are calling for a boycott of the bookstore:… Facing a barrage of criticisms and calls of boycott, Popular bookstore later quickly put up an apology:
“It was a mistake that we accept and sincerely apologize for. We promise that we won’t do it again. #saynotoviolence”.
It has since deleted the insensitive tweet….’
The level of viciousness from the group against the boy, Amos Yee, is getting more serious and escalating. The voice of reason and compassion is also up a few scales to condemn those attackers. And the rest of those following this Incident are divided into two camps, one shaking their heads at how this is allowed to go on and on unrestrained, like it is the right thing to do, with approval from God, while the attackers behaving as if they are the righteous and godly people with God on their side. Come to think of it, when God is in the picture, who dares to go against God?
Everyone must be cowering in fear except some god fearing people that think they have the consent of god to do what they are doing to Amos Yee, the boy on the wrong side of god. What a heavenly divide this has become. And the storm is brewing, an act of God that nothing can be done to stop it except to hurry and evacuate to safety, away from the storm.
See nothing, hear nothing, say nothing and do nothing are the best things to do.
Which is the side of Darkness, which is the side of Light? Amen.
Below is a comment by a netizen, a father of 4 to Popular Book Store posted in TRE.
Trust et al:
May 2, 2015 at 1:52 pm (Quote)
Dear Popular Book Store
I am a father of 4, a Singapore citizen.
I saw your utterly reprehensible disgusting and outrageous Tweet making fun of Amos Yee, a defenceless teen who was viciously assaulted at the doorstep of our Courts. There was the image of a human hand in the gesture of slapping accompanied by the words ‘Hi 5′ and ‘Ouch!’. This clearly meant you were celebrating and even congratulating the assailant and feeling gleeful about the attack. To a 16 year old imprisoned as an adult and in handcuffs and ankle fetters after an assault, you offered Famous Amos cookies, clearly to taunt him.
This was a carefully designed stunt calculated to capitalize in a sadistic manner on the trauma and agony of a teenager. You clearly sought to gain cheap publicity since the tweet featured stationery which you sell!
Minister of Law Shanmugan has categorically stated that this horrendous violent act cannot be condoned.
The Singapore Kindness Movement (whose Patron is our Prime Minister) has denounced the vicious online attacks on Amos Yee which led up to this atrocity.
You are a company which makes its fortune selling textbooks, guidebooks and stationery to kids.
I cannot comprehend how you could stoop to such uncivic and barbaric behaviour when a young person is being victimized.
It is highly probable that conduct such as yours will lead to further violence against Amos Yee and will promote a culture of political violence and thuggery in Singapore.
‎I am ashamed as a Singaporean that an apparently reputable company like yours could stoop to such reprehensible cyber-lynching.
You have not apologized to Amos and his family. Instead you are resorting to PR gimmicks.
Many netizen have called for a boycott of your store and products. I think this is the least that you deserve!
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amos Yee - Identity of attacker not disclosed

Many people are demanding that the police release the photo and identity of the man that attacked Amos Yee out the court house. You can sense the anger and suspicion of the people wanting to know who this man is, how he looks like, where he lives, his family and background that brought about this attack. Nearly a week has passed and the police are not revealing anything.

Those people demanding to know who this man is must look at things from another angle. The police must have learnt a lesson in the Amos Yee case. When Amos Yee was under police custody, handcuffed and shackled, he was safe. I remember many years ago the police handcuffed a photographer photographing the flood in Bukit Timah for his own safety. It is getting to make sense, safety in police custody.

Amos Yee would have been safe under police custody and if his photos and identity were not disclosed. When the masses are braying for his blood, letting him walk around unescorted had proven to be the wrong thing. Also, with his photos everywhere, he could be identified easily. Unfortunately Amos Yee took the safety of our streets for granted and forgot that low crime does not mean no crime. And there are bound to be extremists, the loose ones, hiding somewhere waiting to strike.

This could be a possible reason why the assailant’s identity and photo are not in the newspaper. It would be very embarrassing if there is a repeat incident when this assailant is assaulted outside the court house. Protecting the identity of criminals may be a new practice to be adopted in view of what could happen to such people when there is an unrestrained mob out there with different ideas. Ya, the man may be a violator of the law, he still needs to be protected and not exposed to danger in the public.

And it may be a good thing that Amos is back in custody for his own safety. Amos, please do not opt for bail. It is definitely safer for you under the protection of the police. Now, would his attacker be produced in court wearing a hood for his own safety?

My reasoning ok or not?
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amos Yee – Making a mountain from a mole hill
Not say I want to say, I think it is unwise to pursue this Amos Yee’s case from the start. It was a video clip, people would have a good laugh and passé. To make this into a case and now snowballing into a monster would extract a heavy political price pay in an election year. I am saying this from the political perspective. It would definitely be an election issue for sure. No amount of damage control can help now. Many people are watching this episode but not saying anything but forming a lot of impressions about it. Only hope the damage is not too serious.
And there is another joker who taught it wise to attack Amos Yee outside the court and had his picture taken by so many cameras. What is going on? Hope this joker is a lone wolf and this is a lone wolf incident. Whatever, the perceptions and the court of public opinion is going to be very noisy and not very good for publicity. People tend to put one and one together to get two. It is a PR disaster.
Oh, it is reported that Shanmugam is visiting the Vatican City and even meeting Pope Francis. Good for him to get some divine blessing for Singapore. A little enlightenment from the Holy See would be useful and beneficial to Sin City. He should take the opportunity to get a shower of holy water for a good cleansing on behalf of Singapore.
And don’t forget to ask for blessing in front of Prophet Amos in the Vatican.
Literary there is now a mountain of issues coming out from a mole hill, something that could be avoided, with a little good communication, yes, didn’t they know good communication can move mountains? Didn’t they say that?
God bless. Good timing.
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amos Yee – What are the issues?

On the first day of the hearing that took just 20 minutes, the defence lawyers stated that the graphics in Amos Yee’s facebook were nothing offensive or obscene and many magazines or media had similar graphics or pictures in them. The case was adjourned with the court asking the counsels to define what is offensive and not offensive.

The second point in contention was Amos offending the Christians and with intent. And that it is no good as it would, in my interpretation, harmful to our social fabric and make the Christians angry. The defence pleaded it was not Amos intention to hurt the Christians. So the issue now is a matter of Amos intent with what he said and how it offended the Christians.

The defence counsel also quoted that many Christians said they were not offended. Would this be enough? Would it be enough if hypothetically the Pope or some Christian leaders were to stand up to say they are not offended, which means there was no victim?

While the two sides were saying their peace, it would be good if the defence lawyers could make a plea to the judge to remove the chains and shackles on the poor boy. He is only a kid and he has not hurt anyone. Can the court be kind enough to take pity on the boy without influencing the court’s decision the case?

Perhaps the President or Chairman of the Kindness Movement may want to say some kind words for poor Amos.

Poor child.
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amos Yee – The boy versus the State

Amos Yee was charged for 3 counts by the public prosecutor for his rant in his youtube video. The third charge has now been stood down but not necessarily withdrawn. The first charge is for posting obscenity, an offence against the law and not necessarily that someone has been hurt. Of course there will be people who felt offended by it, but without stretching the imagination too far to say that someone may also be offended when it rains or the sun rises too early or too late. The second charge of offending a religion, very subjective, some people would claim to be offended while the church would to say it was alright and forgiven.

The third charge would be the family members of the dead person to feel offended and there is a clear relationship between the offended and the people abused or ridiculed. Can a non related person or the public claimed to be offended too and seek the court to judge against the boy? For the moment this not an issue as it has since been set aside.

The situation now is that this boy is being charged by the State and produced in court with hands handcuffed and legs shackled like a very serious criminal. And the boy is being defended by 3 lawyers on a pro bono basis. And that was it. It is now a matter between the boy and the State.

Roy Ngerng, a friend of the boy, tried to internationalise his plight by writing to the Pope in the Vatican and several bodies in the UN. Not sure if he had addressed his mail to Ban Ki Moon, the Secretary General. And not sure if he has sent any mail to Obama, the President of the USA who always climbed to the top of the mountain to yell human rights violation and claimed to be the defender of human rights in all corners of the earth. Maybe this case is not an issue of human rights, just a legal issue, not even political.

There has been silence in the western front. No Pope, no UN, no Obama. No one seems to be interested in the affair of this boy or his well being. In the domestic front, no politician, not even from the ruling party, except maybe the SDP, has stood up to say something about this case. So it is not a political issue too.

The case as it stood is a straight forward case of a boy against the State on a matter of law, a trepassing of the State. No amount of internationalisation or politicisation would turn this simple and trivial case into anything else but a simple matter for the court to decide. The case is so simple that no one would dare to use it as an excuse to flog for their cause or to cry crocodile tears. The only tears that would be shed would be the tears of the boy’s parents. No, the brave boy would stand tall, would not shed a tear, not even when he was hit by a 49 year old man outside the court.

There are some noises from the lunatic fringe but just noise and nothing more to have any impact on this case. The world and world news too have scant little interest in this case. No do gooder, bleeding heart socialist, or conscience stricken western journalist would even give it a second look.

It is the boy against the State. Or it is the boy and his parents and the 3 lawyers versus the State. No drumming in Hong Lim Park other than the little murmurs that were hardly heard in the alternative media. It is the day the world and conscience turn their backs, to look the other way, not wanting to know there is a boy called Amos Yee.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amos Yee’s assailant charged in court

Neo Gim Huah, the 49 year old assailant of Amos Yee was charged in court on Monday morning. He admitted hitting Amos and confessed in a CNA article, ‘Through a translator, he said that Yee had been disrespectful and had insulted Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Yew, and that he only wanted to teach Yee a lesson as an elder and did not want to hurt Yee.’

Neo’s slapping of Amos was premeditated, planned to achieve maximum exposure to the media. He ‘wanted the assault to be publicised “so that the world at large would know that the victim was being taught a lesson”.’ He added that he wanted to ‘instil fear in the teenager, let him know what the ways of the world are and teach him a lesson, ...’

This guy must be thinking that he is another kind of god out to deliver justice to Amos, claiming that ‘it would be difficult for the criminal justice system to deal with Yee effectively because of his age’.

The court thought differently and gave him with a deterrent sentence of 3 weeks in jail to prevent the erosion of the justice system in case every monkey thinks he is the law, to deal with anyone they deemed fit, that the court is unable to deliver justice.

What would be interesting now is the possibility of other parties thinking the same way as this Neo and would want to deal him a dose of his own justice the way he did to Amos. Amos has a father and mother to discipline him and it is pure arrogance for this Neo to think he should do the job, and to represent the justice system.

What a cock? See how he feels if he is made to take his own medicine by someone who thinks he deserves to be taught a lesson, to ‘let him know what the ways of the world are...’

Finally all the suspicions about something missing ends with this man’s appearance in court and his photograph in the msm, and the 3 weeks jail awaiting him.
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amos Yee’s grandmother disappointed
It was reported in the Today paper that Amos Yee’s grandmother was unhappy with his anti social behavior for spending too much time on the net. Wondering why the grandmother is now also in the picture. Would the reporters be interviewing his teacher in the kindergarten or his childhood friends to want to know how bad Amos Yee was as a child?
And everyone has an opinion on this boy, including religious leaders, supposedly intelligent and wise people. I have my reservation of these adults who think very highly of themselves and think they know more, betterer and wiser than Amos the kid.
Today information and knowledge are at one’s finger tips. And the children today are exposed to the libraries of the whole world and more. What a child could read, if he is interested, is unimaginable. And the knowledge they acquired could be many many times what an adult believed he knows for his 10 or 20 years in school. There is no comparison.
And in terms of morality, rights and wrongs, religious beliefs, who is wiser? Many religious leaders are just half past six themselves and their intellectual level may be far inferior to a bright child like Amos. And given the haziness and questionable religious beliefs, the subjectivity of rights and wrongs, good and bad, and moral righteousness, age is no criteria. A wise person is not necessary an older person, the parents or grandparents. You cannot measure them until they open their mouth to reveal their foolishness and ignorance.
The adults must not presume that they know best. The kids must be allowed to explore and learn as much as they could. Unless of course the adult is as wise as gods, and knows more than the child.
How many adults think so please kee chiu. I can only say this, don’t be too presumptious to think you know best or your right is right. How many people have the wisdom of the sages to be in a position to pass judgement on a kid? This kid Amos is a rough diamond and if polished by the able hands of wise men, could turn out to be a genius in the future. It is highly irresponsible for any adult to condemn this child for a little indiscretion at his age. The way the lynch mob went after him speaks for itself, about the emptiness in their heads. Thinking adults should not be so judgemental over a single incident like this and want to condemn and ruin the lives of this child. Ask yourself, are you fit to judge this child? Are you up to it?
There will be the prudes that would throw sludge at Amos, but there will be the kind souls that would offer him flowers and wanting him to grow up well. This is how controversial the incident has become. The world is not black and white and a long stretch of greys. And worst, white may be black and black is white.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coward of the neighbourhood
This guy thought he was the village chief of the neighbourhood. He could not stand a little noise by children playing in the corridor, especially the boy downstair. Whenever he heard the boy playing he got irritated. How could children behave so unruly in the corridor and disturbing everyone?
He shared his unhappiness with his neighbours and they egged him on. They agreed that he should deal with the boy. So this ‘village chief’ guy, or thinking he was the village chief got more garang. Then he went snooping on the boy’s routine. He also knew that the boy’s father was bigger size than him. He got to be careful of the boy’s father.
He waited for an opportunity to strike when the boy was alone. And one day the chance came. As the boy was coming out of the lift alone, this village chief walked towards him, whistling as if nothing was wrong. Just as the boy was passing him, he launched a sneak attack at the boy, slapping him. And then he ran for his life, got back to his flat, locked the gate and then taunted the boy in the safety of his flat, come and get me lah. Imagine he ran away from the boy he slapped! What a shame! Luckily he did not wet his pants in fear of the boy.
The boy was stunted for a moment. How could a big man suddenly sneak behind him and slapped him without warning? It was a very shameful act. The case was reported to the police.
When the police called on the village chief, he explained that he wanted to teach the boy a lesson. He meant no harm. The police found his explanation silly. If he was acting as a village chief, an adult, and wanting to discipline a boy, other than telling the boy’s father, he should have told the boy straight in the face. And if the boy was rude and he could not control his anger, might slap the boy like an adult. His sneaky attack and running away as if in fear of the boy hitting back was pure cowardice and did not make sense. He was behaving like a little rascal.
Anyway the police hauled him up and charged him for assault. And he walked into jail lan lan, with everyone calling him a stupid coward of the neighbourhood. Pity his wife and children to have such a stupid and coward man as a husband and father.
Was he a village chief, or a deluded asshole? One word of advice, look at the mirror first. An asshole is always an asshole. A coward is always a coward.
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Amos Yee’s cartoon – A survey
‘The judge pointed out that the defence itself had acknowledged that such an image could encourage young people towards sexual experimentation.’ I quoted this from the ST.
I am thinking of conducting a survey on how the cartoon has actually affected the young and lead them to ‘sexual experimentation’. I heard more than a million people have viewed Amos video and if half are the young, it means half a million young people would have been exposed to this temptation.
I can expect some young and old reading Kamasutra or Kamasutra the movie would be tempted to indulge in some sexual experimentation by the vivid pictorial acts in the book/movie. How many would really be excited by the Amos Yee cartoon to really want to have a go at it? Was it really that sexually powderful?
Anyone got any idea? Anyone has actually done it after viewing the video, please kee chiu. I would like to take down the numbers to see how temptuous is that cartoon and how suggestive it has been to the young. Would be interesting to know, and the PR and advertising folks would learn something from it to work out their next project.
PS. I am very sure there are people who have not seen anything so ‘explicit’ before in their closet livestyle and would have gone bonkers and sexually berserk. And there will be people who would say ‘you mean that is suggestive’ Yawn?
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